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Post by slingy1052 on Feb 15, 2014 22:27:52 GMT
Enough abbreviations in the title for you peeps lol
Hi i was on here last time with my turbo efi 750 running a 813cc big bore, MuS2 EFI and a IHIRHB5 turbo.
Well its changed a bit, now has a 1052cc slabby motor, 1mm decom plate, APE studs, full stainless exhaust, TB04-13T turbo and intercooler. Pics below just highlight some of the turbo build.
Here's how it is now
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Post by slingy1052 on Feb 15, 2014 22:36:49 GMT
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Post by slingy1052 on Feb 15, 2014 22:43:46 GMT
some more     Ok, that just shows the main of the bits for the new turbo install on the 11. A bit of a different layout to some systems. I have alot more pictures and stuff so if anyone wants more detail on any part, just ask. The efi was covered in detail in the old thread, but happy to repost any pictures or info regarding if anyone wants its. Cheers Jack |
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Post by pasis on Feb 16, 2014 15:58:09 GMT
turbine and oil filter can be easily damaged.
There are photos of the sprocket cover? Who did it?
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Post by pasis on Feb 16, 2014 16:00:28 GMT
such a small intercooler low efficiency.
I would not put it at all.
Better water injection with an alcohol to put. Efficiency is higher, and do not need all hang so low.
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Post by nomex on Feb 16, 2014 16:06:24 GMT
Nice build, but..
Like Pasis said, the oilfilter is in very dangerous place. I wouldn't also use intercooler, those just dont seem to work in motorcycles as you can't get so long 100% WOT as with car.
Thicker, but shorter oilcooler would give you room to get the turbo much higher.
Also noticed the sprocket cover. Would be intresting to see more pictures of it.
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Post by slingy1052 on Feb 17, 2014 6:38:32 GMT
such a small intercooler low efficiency. I would not put it at all. Better water injection with an alcohol to put. Efficiency is higher, and do not need all hang so low. Hi Pasis, I understand your comments, but for me this is the reasoning. The only way an intercooler can be an actual hinderance to the system is if the cross sectional area of the core is less than the pipes feeding it. If this is the case then pressure drop across the core will result which will mean the turbo having to work harder for any given pressure at the engine , resulting in more heat etc, so not good. This cooler is sized so the core passages is greater than the pipes feeding it to minimise PD. Other than this, all the stuff i have read says, if you can fit one do it, as there's no moving parts or extra systems to fail and any cooling gained by it is a bonus. Here in OZ, it hits 36degC so any gain is welcome. I am not a big fan of water injection, but thats another whole argument on its own. To me it's really only relavant to carb bikes which have limited control of fuel and spark values, where it can be a usefull tool. EFI,, not worth it. |
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Post by slingy1052 on Feb 17, 2014 6:51:29 GMT
turbine and oil filter can be easily damaged. There are photos of the sprocket cover? Who did it? On another note, heres some more photo's of my cover which i did.       |
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Post by slingy1052 on Feb 17, 2014 6:53:59 GMT
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Post by pasis on Feb 17, 2014 10:01:39 GMT
How about liquid intercooler?
For my bike, I'll make a liquid.
Thanks for the pics!
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Post by slingy1052 on Feb 17, 2014 11:08:25 GMT
How about liquid intercooler? For my bike, I'll make a liquid. Thanks for the pics! Yeah, i have, maybe in the future. There was a guy, i think called Peter Pain (maybe?) that had a turbo watercooled GSXR1100 with a liquid cooled intercooler built into the plenum, it made some real good power. i fancy doing something similar, and would also like to explore using the fuel for the cooler liquid, that way no extra reservoirs and pumps etc so keeps it simple. |
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Post by katana on Feb 17, 2014 16:13:29 GMT
Ha Ha - using fuel as a IC cooling medium - that I would like to see but not to close while it does. Obviously depends on the boost being used but some of the SSB boys here report intake temps 150 - 180C from ambient 20-25C @ 30lb boost. I wouldn't want to be transferring that kind of heat to the fuel which could a) vapour lock and b) loose density so needing more fuel to keep the AFR right.
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Post by slingy1052 on Feb 18, 2014 11:36:56 GMT
In extreme cases like you mention, obviously a dedicated coolant and system for the IC is the only way to go, and the only way to achieve the required outputs to be competative.
What i was refering to was a street/strip setup where packaging and battery/alternator load are always issues, so anything that reduces the need to keep adding extra pumps and systems is beneficial.
Plus, with the amount of heat that gets transfered to my tank now, a fuel cooler as part of an intercooler setup wouldn't be a bad thing anyway.
Besides, it was just a thought, i'm happy with my setup and wont be changing it anytime soon.
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Post by slingy1052 on Sept 2, 2014 9:58:43 GMT
WOW, been a while since i updated. Not a lot happened really. I got a set of silencers for $1 off that site, fitted them, which i have to say was surprisingly easy. The origional mounts lined up perfect with the old grab handle nutsert, so they actually bolted straight on, bit of a mod to the undertray and panels and a cut of the link pipe and they were on. EASY. But, i fired it up to have a listen with it on the paddock stand, forgot to take it off the stand , and had it syphon half the contents of the sump into the turbo. BASTARD. So then i made it my mission to stop it from doing this again. So after about 7 different designs abd taking the turbo on and off even more times than that, and much watching oil flowing from the turbo drain into a jug and monitoring , i seem to have it all sorted and finally went for a ride. Cant believe how much nicer it is not to have my ears ringing after a ride, and can actually hear the BOV and engine over the exhaust noise. Much nicer. I also improved the crankcase ventilation making a baffled catch can with a site tube that is plumbed back to the turbo inlet rather than just venting to atmosphere.     |
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