weegaz22
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Reg: Aug 21, 2013 18:25:49 GMT
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Post by weegaz22 on Aug 28, 2013 13:08:24 GMT
you are forgetting about why we are using WI in the first place, its not to cool the intake air its for knock resistance once its finally all crammed into combustion chamber, cooling the intakes air is just a nice byproduct, with the WI you also have the option of adding Methanol, N02 isn't going to do anything but increase your potential for knock, it can be used as a form of "anti-lag" though if you got a real big turbo you need to spool up
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Post by Devilman on Aug 28, 2013 19:13:23 GMT
Well, based upon what your saying, you seem to be forgetting both how and why we use WI... if we go back over your last half-dozen posts, your reasoning for using WI has changed from cooling the inlet charge, to adding more oxygen, to increasing knock resistance... Seems to me the only thing you really think WI is used for, is whatever you want to say its used for to suit your current arguement... WI gives knock resistance primarily because of the cooler inlet charge being less likely to suffer pre-ignition when reaching the cylinders where there could be some very hot areas (edges of valve pockets on pistons etc..) which could indeed cause pre-ignition. Water injection isnt some magical substance that suddenly eliminates knock just because its there... and with regard to what I was saying about NO2, I dont think you have grasped what I was actually on about. When you release a liquid or gas under pressure (a LOT of pressure), it "draws" heat away from its surroundings (just like inside a refrigeration unit) I was positing the idea that this could have quite drastic effects on inlet charge temps, but without any testing, it's only a hunch as to how much it would actually change the charge temps and how much you would actually need to use to get the effect. No offense, not looking to bang heads (especially not in someone else's thread) but ya can't keep changing how something works / why we use it and expect nobody to notice
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weegaz22
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Reg: Aug 21, 2013 18:25:49 GMT
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Post by weegaz22 on Aug 28, 2013 20:17:09 GMT
Well, based upon what your saying, you seem to be forgetting both how and why we use WI... if we go back over your last half-dozen posts, your reasoning for using WI has changed from cooling the inlet charge, to adding more oxygen, to increasing knock resistance... Seems to me the only thing you really think WI is used for, is whatever you want to say its used for to suit your current arguement... WI gives knock resistance primarily because of the cooler inlet charge being less likely to suffer pre-ignition when reaching the cylinders where there could be some very hot areas (edges of valve pockets on pistons etc..) which could indeed cause pre-ignition. Water injection isnt some magical substance that suddenly eliminates knock just because its there... and with regard to what I was saying about NO2, I dont think you have grasped what I was actually on about. When you release a liquid or gas under pressure (a LOT of pressure), it "draws" heat away from its surroundings (just like inside a refrigeration unit) I was positing the idea that this could have quite drastic effects on inlet charge temps, but without any testing, it's only a hunch as to how much it would actually change the charge temps and how much you would actually need to use to get the effect. No offense, not looking to bang heads (especially not in someone else's thread) but ya can't keep changing how something works / why we use it and expect nobody to notice Whatever, Sorry to the OP, Back on topic
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tizik
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Bikes: 1986 GSX-R 1100, 1986 GSX-R 1100, 2001 R6 Streetfighter
Reg: Jun 1, 2013 4:31:34 GMT
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Post by tizik on Nov 14, 2013 20:06:02 GMT
Now that you 2 are done (haha), where does this project stand?
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Post by nomex on Dec 20, 2013 12:35:08 GMT
Nothing much. Waiting for inspiration and looking for good Bandit 1200 engine with reasonable price. This winter will be easy as only the engine has to be built and for that there's nothing new. I may also modificate the pressurepipe a little and... The waterpump arrived two months late from US.
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Post by nomex on Jan 15, 2014 15:49:41 GMT
Does anyone have any information if there's a place that would still sell footrests/rearsets/fussrasten to GSX-R 1100 1990 or what model from newer bike would fit?
Few new engines have been found and project is about to start again.
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Post by nomex on Jan 19, 2014 18:40:03 GMT
B12 -01 engine. A bit messy. It's still open what pistons I should put in. I will use my old gearbox, cams and clutch with this engine. Cams ofcourse need new adjustable wheels but shouldnt be any problem.
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Post by nomex on Feb 5, 2014 17:59:02 GMT
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Post by pasis on Feb 9, 2014 10:17:34 GMT
Busa piston?
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Post by nomex on Feb 9, 2014 14:40:03 GMT
Yes. They are Wiseco 9,5:1 Hayabusa 81mm pistons. The price was good so I thought that I should try them. They will go bit busa conrods. I haven't done any calculations yet, but I think 1mm basegasket (nothing else) would be fine. I'm actually only worried about the exhaust valves and that they don't hit the pistons The cylinderhead will have APE springs and new viton valveseals.
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Post by nitro on Feb 10, 2014 15:12:19 GMT
But CR will be really less I think. May be turn them - best case: you need no spacer, cr is still in turbo area and valve pockets are deep enough Space between deck an first piston ring seems to be a lot (looks like...).
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Post by nomex on Feb 11, 2014 5:39:47 GMT
The Busa rods are longer
GSXR1100 117.37mm 41x20, 20.98mm width Busa -'07 119.50mm 41x20, 20.98mm width
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Post by nomex on Feb 14, 2014 20:29:30 GMT
Here we go again... start from a scratch
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Post by nomex on Feb 15, 2014 15:58:42 GMT
The oily heart. Seems to be ok.
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Post by nomex on Feb 16, 2014 15:13:31 GMT
Today assembled the gearbox. There is a difference between GSXR and Bandit 1200 driveshafts. I moved the gears from GSXR to Bandit driveshaft. The locking is different and the bearing is wider. The clutchshaft didn't have any problem
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