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Post by mrjason on Nov 20, 2014 1:23:47 GMT
Evenin peeps...
So...standard gsx1127 motor, puttin a bit o' FI on the beaut, what's the smallest size of intercooler I should get for it to still work efficiently? . Athank you! Cheers... Me!
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Teresa O.
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Post by Teresa O. on Nov 20, 2014 8:51:17 GMT
I'm sorry, but there won't be a distinguished answer up to what core size, tank size, areas and airflow-exposure i'ts gonna still work efficiently... There is no threashold, but a formula taking the above paramters + charge-air flow parameters into account. It's allways a tradeoff between pressure-drop (that you have to compensate with boost), lag (beacuse of the larger volume), gain in power and security through colder charge air and shifted knock-limits... With bikes having typicaly less and shorter WOT-times than Cars for example you can get along without IC for quite some time without any issus and gaines in drivability (lag, weight, packaging), with the proped suited turbo.. Especially with EFI you have all the smart gadgets to control that setup. Thats my personal Opinion and of course it depends on your boost-Level, Fuel (100Okt, E85, racefuel etc), CR, ambient temperature, bike-purpose and so on.. Most IC-Setups on bikes I've seen are pretty rubbish anyway from a technical standpoint... just my two pence..
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Post by captain chaos on Nov 20, 2014 11:43:22 GMT
I agree with Teresa O here.
One thing though.... what does the OP mean with FI? Fuel Injection, or Forced Induction?
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Post by mrjason on Nov 20, 2014 13:49:45 GMT
Yeah sorry about that... forced induction is what I meant!. Its gonna be a road going bike, on normal unleaded petrol. So really I would be better off not using an intercooler yet. The bike isn't even finished at the moment, infact its not even really started yet! Collecting parts is the stage of where its at! LOL. Think I will be better off building it first, then think about an incooler at a later date.
And cheers for the informative posts. Good reading!
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Post by screwriverracing on Nov 20, 2014 21:24:28 GMT
Yes but they look trick Cheers SRR
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Post by mrjason on Nov 20, 2014 22:33:55 GMT
Yes but they look trick Cheers SRR bugger! a whole brace of coolers there! just out of interest have you tried it with and without the intercooler?
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Teresa O.
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Bikes: Trickframed 1127, Turbo 14 and many more
Reg: May 31, 2013 18:51:42 GMT
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Post by Teresa O. on Nov 21, 2014 7:07:30 GMT
yea, very cool and brutal stance , absolutely.. but I think first of all it should properly run at all... ;-)
...now where's my coat..
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Post by beerbellykelly on Nov 21, 2014 17:22:32 GMT
If you can incorporate an IC in your design - then do so - Plenty of neat deep core ICs available - I am incorporating one large or two smaller on my SAXON which has EFE power , on hold at moment - for powder coating
.............waiting to get my coat
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Post by katana on Nov 22, 2014 12:17:42 GMT
I used one on my 'M' but it was intended to run 30+ psi boost which does induce a considerable amount of heat - my core loses approx 2 psi across it ( so the spec's say ) but will knock 100 ish degrees off the temps so for ME its worth it!
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Post by duckndive on Nov 22, 2014 16:57:33 GMT
I used one on my 'M' but it was intended to run 30+ psi boost which does induce a considerable amount of heat - my core loses approx 2 psi across it ( so the spec's say ) but will knock 100 ish degrees off the temps so for ME its worth it! There you go an Adult with real world experience answer...........
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Post by katana on Nov 22, 2014 17:59:19 GMT
I used one on my 'M' but it was intended to run 30+ psi boost which does induce a considerable amount of heat - my core loses approx 2 psi across it ( so the spec's say ) but will knock 100 ish degrees off the temps so for ME its worth it! There you go an Adult with real world experience answer........... Nah.................................just a big kid in reality!
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