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Post by Kristjan on Apr 16, 2015 17:02:29 GMT
I'd vote for mechanically driven supercharger/blower. Turbocharger is like a clitoris today - seems like every cunt has one.
I think none of them is cheap to build, but price will vary a lot depending on your choice of components, hp goal, engineering skills etc.
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dixiethedog
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Post by dixiethedog on Apr 16, 2015 18:08:20 GMT
I find discussion's like this interesting as I have a little experience with erm..thing's. At least on wasting money on them. I tried a "supercharger" or what ever anybody wishes to call them to my chop. But it wouldnt go in the frame space. Mini cooper charger on one off inlet (FJ1200) and top fuel pulley belt thing's. I got the set up cheap and sold it to a good mate for the price I paid, £100. Moving on to a more expensive ,but still ok,I bought a full gsxr draw thru kit from Dave Dunlop (FBM) s/h for £1000. Again on the oil cooled front,I did some wheeling dealing to get cash together and paid £500 for this turbo set up. Which is now on my Blandit.
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Post by dixiethedog on Apr 16, 2015 18:16:18 GMT
Next up,I swopped this set up for a paint job. £20-30 worth of paint material's in exchange for this part set up. And finally in honour to everybody who has tried to make there own set up,I have this one under construction. Part's bought so far for about £300. The point Im trying to make is it doesnt need a massive amount of cash if you keep your eye's out for bargain's,or better still have a bash at cobbling stuff together yourself. It can be very expensive of course if you go for all brand new hi-end stuff.
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Post by dixiethedog on Apr 16, 2015 18:18:29 GMT
Id suggest you have a chat with Dave Dunlop and check him out for one of his kit's. Ride in,ride out service.
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Post by smallandfast on Apr 16, 2015 20:09:21 GMT
To be honest a ride in ride out service isn't really an option as the cars not road going haha plus I have one side of the engine quite close to the bulkhead pic below http://instagram.com/p/ed9IXkv-ao Hoping just to get back some lost horses first then look at possibly a cheaper diy turbo set up. http://instagram.com/p/ed8bu9P-Z3
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Post by smallandfast on Apr 16, 2015 23:33:29 GMT
Out of interest though, can you pick up off the shelf supercharger parts? Ie crank pully, housing etc. or would I have to get one made up?
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Post by katana on Apr 17, 2015 8:36:44 GMT
There maybe part you can adapt from the car world but the only mechanical supercharger kit is now long out of production. You say you are looking for lost hp - how much are we talking about as I see some areas on the install that could be contributing to the problems? 1 The exhaust isn't the best - primaries look unequal and would benefit from some secondaries to pull the torque up. 2 Individual foam sock filters just don't work well with these engines - either twin pods or proper airbox is better. 3 Due to orientation (which you can't do anything about) engine cooling is going to be compromised. Although described as oil cooled they are basically air cooled still, with a large amount of oil cooling added! So unless you can get some serious air blast to the front / exhaust side of the motor its liable to be running extra hot and hurting power? 4 Bear in mind a 'blown' engine will produce even more heat, in its current configuration, you could actually melt it or hurt it to the point of self destruction!
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Post by smallandfast on Apr 17, 2015 8:47:17 GMT
1 The exhaust isn't the best - primaries look unequal and would benefit from some secondaries to pull the torque up. 2 Individual foam sock filters just don't work well with these engines - either twin pods or proper airbox is better. 3 Due to orientation (which you can't do anything about) engine cooling is going to be compromised. Although described as oil cooled they are basically air cooled still, with a large amount of oil cooling added! So unless you can get some serious air blast to the front / exhaust side of the motor its liable to be running extra hot and hurting power? 4 Bear in mind a 'blown' engine will produce even more heat, in its current configuration, you could actually melt it or hurt it to the point of self destruction! Thanks for the Feed back, 1, the exhaust is already scrapped and new one is going to be fab'd up when I can stump up the £600 the only exhaust fabricators in the area are asking 2, I did plan on replacing these at some point, any suggestions on twin ports? also if I was to turbo they'd obviously be obsolete anyway. 3/4, the front end is completely open, no sides or wings to be seen so I don't anticipate cooling being a huge issue. Pic below. http://instagram.com/p/1GIEZEv-fq
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Post by captain chaos on Apr 17, 2015 11:24:47 GMT
K&N RU-2922 are good twin-pod filters.
But since space is not an issue I recommend using the original air filter box, with some modified air intake, it will run much better. Maybe slightly less top end power but stronger midrange.
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