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Post by rusty on May 29, 2015 19:59:39 GMT
Sva test sounds familiar from what others on here have mentioned but going back to a standard frame, like I said, so long as all the numbers all tally up then the dvla should accept whatever you do...my bike for instance has a different engine for the year/model and its all ok with the dvla
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Post by grimeric on May 29, 2015 20:31:15 GMT
I'm pretty sure if its a standard uk frame all will okay. There seem to be a lot of American import frames on eBay but I'd assume these would have to be registered with the dvla.
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Post by slim on May 30, 2015 10:19:55 GMT
With an unregistered frame you will be looking at an sva or msva
With an engine swap into a registered frame I fill in the book with the new numbers & send it off, sometimes it comes straight back but most times they ask for an engineers report, what this amounts to is a letter on headed paper from an mot tester stating vin & engine numbers along with reg & the new cc also saying that he has inspected it & the engine is fitted correctly in a safe & secure manner in accordance with mot laws, that has always done the trick for me & a shiny new book appears in a few weeks
As they have been clamping down on modifications recently I now sort this before I actually do the work just in case 
Another thing to watch is that you don't get caught out if the engine swap puts the bike into a different tax bracket, my mrs chop on a 750 frame with 600 engine actually lowered the tax but it could work the other way round
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Post by zooma on May 30, 2015 13:40:09 GMT
With an unregistered frame you will be looking at an sva or msva
With an engine swap into a registered frame I fill in the book with the new numbers & send it off, sometimes it comes straight back but most times they ask for an engineers report, what this amounts to is a letter on headed paper from an mot tester stating vin & engine numbers along with reg & the new cc also saying that he has inspected it & the engine is fitted correctly in a safe & secure manner in accordance with mot laws, that has always done the trick for me & a shiny new book appears in a few weeks
As they have been clamping down on modifications recently I now sort this before I actually do the work just in case
Another thing to watch is that you don't get caught out if the engine swap puts the bike into a different tax bracket, my mrs chop on a 750 frame with 600 engine actually lowered the tax but it could work the other way round
Been off the scene for some time so most of this is new to me... whilst it's true that there are death-traps out there, most who build or modify bikes know their stuff. This just reeks of EU/Government bureaucracy... apparently done in the name of health n safety but in reality, probably just another way of takin' folks' money by introducing extra tests e.t.c |
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Post by grimeric on May 31, 2015 19:28:13 GMT
It seems fairly straight forward if you're building from an already registered frame then. A lot of the us imported frames seem cheap but I'm guessing the cost of registering and sva testing strips away any savings after buying the frame.
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Post by zooma on May 31, 2015 19:44:45 GMT
It seems fairly straight forward if you're building from an already registered frame then. A lot of the us imported frames seem cheap but I'm guessing the cost of registering and sva testing strips away any savings after buying the frame. If it seems too good to be true an' all that fella... you're doin' the right thing checkin' all the ins and outs before starting yer project. |
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Post by grimeric on May 31, 2015 20:03:52 GMT
It seems fairly straight forward if you're building from an already registered frame then. A lot of the us imported frames seem cheap but I'm guessing the cost of registering and sva testing strips away any savings after buying the frame. If it seems too good to be true an' all that fella... you're doin' the right thing checkin' all the ins and outs before starting yer project. To me if the frames already registered and the motor Is all updated on the log book then as long as it passes an mot all the other mods only need to be declared with the insurer. Seems simple enough  |
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Post by grimeric on May 31, 2015 20:38:03 GMT
I must be too young to know of this Norwich union policy Sounded good though! As much as its a ball ache I always try to declare my mods as I've heard loads of horror stories about insurers not paying out due to stupid little mods. Seems like they will use any excuse to wiggle out of a payment. |
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Post by zooma on May 31, 2015 21:33:44 GMT
I must be too young to know of this Norwich union policy Sounded good though! Nowt wrong wi' being too young fella!. One of me mates rode an XS1100 on that policy at just 17, he'd past his test but no way could he have afforded the insurance otherwise. As much as its a ball ache I always try to declare my mods as I've heard loads of horror stories about insurers not paying out due to stupid little mods. Seems like they will use any excuse to wiggle out of a payment. Agreed not worth the risk these days |
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Post by yoshi on May 31, 2015 22:09:56 GMT
.This was back in the day of the (in)famous 100cc Norwich Union rider policy where me and me mates would ride big bikes and pay virtually nothing for insurance as there was no mention on the certificates of CC entitlement. ha that brings back memories forgot about that at 18 I had a gs 750 0n a 100cc cert never had any hassle from the garda (police ) over insurance ,except from my alfa 4-1 or as we call them a 4 into nothing getting me pulled yoshi |
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Post by zooma on May 31, 2015 22:31:12 GMT
ha that brings back memories forgot about that at 18 I had a gs 750 0n a 100cc cert never had any hassle from the garda (police ) over insurance ,except from my alfa 4-1 or as we call them a 4 into nothing getting me pulled yoshi Good memories eh Yoshi... shame all the old loopholes have since been sewn up tighter than a gnat's chuff!. Best ever review of an Alfa 4 into 1 that  |
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Post by yoshi on May 31, 2015 22:47:48 GMT
yeah those old alfa and piper systems probably made your bike slower but we taught we were barry sheene still remember the bell star 3 with the BLACK visor that nearly took your head off when you lifted it up , and then there was micron fork braces they were blah blah blah god I am getting old ha  yoshi |
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Post by yoshi on May 31, 2015 23:08:03 GMT
hi grimeric I have done this both ways over the years and if you can save a few quid its best to get a complete bike its much easier to start with ,if your buying a front end buy it complete yokes for early gixers are hard to find it can also be hard to get the correct axel,s spacers ect ,unfinished projects can also be a good look at but make sure you CHECK everything that's there I learned this the hard way , if you get a few quid together have a cheeky bid on a bike I know a few people who got a nice bike this way (jammy bastards ha) yoshi |
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Post by grimeric on Jun 1, 2015 19:52:45 GMT
Cheers Yoshi, sounds like a plan. I'd rather get a full bike if I could or at least an abandoned project. Finding one at the right price is the issue. One will come up at the right price at the right time I'm sure.
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