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Post by zooma on Jun 15, 2015 17:04:21 GMT
Oops.. forgot to say P4ddy, thanks for the offer of the loan of yer carb cleaner mate... fook!, where are my manners?... must've left 'em down the pit
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Post by slim on Jun 15, 2015 19:45:03 GMT
As I'm also always nearly skint I've faced the same problems many times, the worst being a slingy that had stood in a falling down shed with water dripping on it & never moving for over 12 years
On that one I stripped cleaned & set the carbs, removed the plugs give it a squirt of wd40 down the bores a couple of times a day over 2 or 3 days while I was doing other stuff like cleaning & sealing the tank then turned it over by hand to make sure it was all free, popped some new plugs in along with a good battery & fired it up off a fuel bottle the result was a little smoke (from the wd I guess), that cleared before it was off choke no problems after that .... just a proper service & sold, its still owned & run by a member of the old site as far as I'm aware so I wouldn't worry too much unless it had a problem before it was laid up, tough engines
Re cams ... Known to pit slightly in older models even when regularly used although they still run well enough if the tappets are properly set so again no real problems, I suggest cleaning carbs etc & running it up as above then you can see what you have before going further into it
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Post by rusty on Jun 15, 2015 20:48:17 GMT
Pretty sure I used *ahem* yamaha carb cleaner that my father in law gave me:-/ Are you taking the carbs apart to clean them? Probably just gonna whip the float bowls off to see how bad things look inside... most likely will be varnished up to hell Y*m*h* carb cleaner!!... good job no-one else is readin' this I took the jets out after being ultrasonically cleaned and soaked them overnight in carb cleaner...was still an amount of s**t that came off them which surprised me but I've had no problems with the carbs since...except needing to balance them still lol
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Post by zooma on Jun 15, 2015 21:39:10 GMT
Cheers Rusty... yeah, think I'm just gonna have to do what I can... take the jets out, give 'em a good seeing to (ooer!) and then rely on the profi fuel max stuff to finish the job. Kinda glad that I'm some way off that side of things TBH... will just focus on checkin' the engine over, then it'll all be about tartin' the old girl up.
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Post by zooma on Jun 15, 2015 21:53:16 GMT
Thanks Slim, the last time I ran me bike was april 2011 so the story of that slingy certainly gives me some hope. Defo' think the carbs are gonna be the achilles heel when it comes to startin' her up again. No probs at all when the bike was laid up, except as the monthly start-ups became less frequent, one of the pots would often struggle to kick in... reckon that will have been a warning that the fuel was starting to go off. Hopefully, as my motor is late 90's... the cams will be ok?.
Gonna have me first day in the garage tomorrow but will probably just spend the first couple of days gettin' set up with tools an' stuff... should know the score by the end of the week.
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Post by rusty on Jun 16, 2015 5:22:37 GMT
Thanks Slim, the last time I ran me bike was april 2011 so the story of that slingy certainly gives me some hope. Defo' think the carbs are gonna be the achilles heel when it comes to startin' her up again. No probs at all when the bike was laid up, except as the monthly start-ups became less frequent, one of the pots would often struggle to kick in... reckon that will have been a warning that the fuel was starting to go off. Hopefully, as my motor is late 90's... the cams will be ok?. Gonna have me first day in the garage tomorrow but will probably just spend the first couple of days gettin' set up with tools an' stuff... should know the score by the end of the week. Remember to take plenty 'o' pics too;-)
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Post by quazi on Jun 16, 2015 5:51:59 GMT
Just to throw another spanner in the works, I had to replace a liner in my eg engine due to this very problem. I left it unsued in my old wooden workshop which was subjected to extreme changes in temperature, with the sun as a direct hit on cold mornings. One liner was worse than the other three, it had to be replaced. The other three just had evidence of minute specs of rust starting to form which you couldn't feel. The engine has since been stripped and rebuilt twice in that time, but I'm still using the same rings. Unless you've got x-ray specs' you'll never know unless you strip it, either that or when it goes pop on you at 90mph up the motorway, seizing the rear wheel and sending you off into the undergrowth never to be found for two weeks, it's your choice. ha ha! Problem with these kinds of scenarios are what happens if you cut corners, something/nothing only time will tell, it could though cost you twice as much of the nothing you have now. I keep saying it and I'll no doubt continue to say it, make a sensible choice not entirely based on the cost. We are all skint that's because we own bikes they are always money pits (that and wife's kids houses, fags, booze) and whatever else turns you on, ladies of the night perhaps or is that men of the night for some? smiley-shocked003 Anyway, you will kick yourself (or if you can't reach, we'll come round and do it for you) to have spent £200 on it to later find it was wasted. You may of course be lucky, "well do ya feel lucky punk?"
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Post by zooma on Jun 16, 2015 13:22:27 GMT
Just to throw another spanner in the works Thanks mate ... I think!. You are of course correct... just as FBOB was when he said about how in an ideal world e.t.c. Back in 1988, I did the old City & Guilds 389 and 399 motorcycle engineering courses and your thoughts are exactly how my tutor would've told us to approach this. But then anyone who did those courses would also say that there was a lot of stuff taught that was unlikely (not impossible!) to be encountered in the workplace.. in the real world. For sure, this will be a gamble and it's one that I'm none too keen on takin'... but ya know what they say 'bout "a man's gotta do" an' all that. For health reasons, I gotta get back OTR desperately. I'm between a rock and a hard place 'ere... do I take the time out to look into the problem (so I don't have an off doin' the ton on the motorway), or do I sit around as me health deteriorates. I'm not even gonna touch on the cash situation except to say that I'm now in kidney selling territory and I've already had to knock loadsa stuff off me shoppin' list. So, Quaz' (a.k.a Officer Callaghan)....I feel about as lucky as the guy who dropped dead the day after winning the lottery jackpot but I think I'm gonna chance it. I'll be as careful and as thorough as I can be with looking for potential problems but that's all I can do. I appreciate yer concern.... and the good humour Just an afterthought... don't s'pose anyone here has a borescope/endoscope I could borrow?... I'd be willing to pay for fully insured and registered postage both ways, would look after it and would send it back within a week.
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Post by rusty on Jun 16, 2015 14:29:56 GMT
Isn't that the tool they stick up people's bums to look at ya prostate???
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Post by fatblokeonbandit on Jun 16, 2015 15:51:44 GMT
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Post by fatblokeonbandit on Jun 16, 2015 15:52:38 GMT
Isn't that the tool they stick up people's bums to look at ya prostate??? That's a proctoscope
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Post by doobs on Jun 16, 2015 16:07:34 GMT
Isn't that the tool they stick up people's bums to look at ya prostate??? That's a proctoscope upyerendascope
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Post by zooma on Jun 16, 2015 16:58:28 GMT
It would indeed FBOB... found a few of the same but without the fancy auction pics for less than half the price.... don't think 10 more quids gonna kill me.... hmmm, that's what I said £700 ago smiley-rolleyes008
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Post by rusty on Jun 16, 2015 17:34:56 GMT
Isn't that the tool they stick up people's bums to look at ya prostate??? That's a proctoscope Ah....a man with experience?? ;-)
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Post by fatblokeonbandit on Jun 16, 2015 17:54:00 GMT
That's a proctoscope Ah....a man with experience?? ;-) Nope, a man married to a nurse...
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