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Post by bigkenx on Jun 21, 2015 12:28:24 GMT
When are we going see dirty pictures
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Post by captain chaos on Jun 21, 2015 14:00:08 GMT
When are we going see dirty pictures Proboards doesn't allow dirty pictures, you have to wait for the new OSS site to be online.
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Post by bigkenx on Jun 21, 2015 14:03:40 GMT
Ha ha
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Post by zooma on Jun 21, 2015 16:34:22 GMT
Here ya go Ken... best I could do without risking being banned
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Post by zooma on Jun 21, 2015 16:42:58 GMT
Nuff said!!!... pissed off now
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Post by quazi on Jun 21, 2015 17:47:01 GMT
Deep breaths, this is all part of the project. You'll have a better chance of getting it out with the engine out the frame, it's a setback but not a disaster, happens to us all at least once in our lifetime. Thing is not to rush it, you will almost certainly fuck it up, consider your options and do them in sequence, easiest thing first, then progress onto the difficult. One of them should work for you, and yes it may involve a drill, tap and heli-coil ultimately.
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Post by zooma on Jun 21, 2015 19:02:33 GMT
Thanks Quazi. Yep, have had it happen before, oddly enough on somethin' with a very similar motor (the 750 slabby I had for a few weeks) ... managed to drill the b'stard out on that and reclaimed enough of the thread to put the same size bolt back in... then sold it on as a "project" I decided before this happened that the engine needs to come out now, can't clean everything as I want to otherwise and if the borescope I've ordered is shit, then I'll probably wanna do a full top end strip anyway. Can't really see away around going straight for the throat with this knackered bolt (drill, tap and an insert)... just don't have the tools/facilities/patience to try much else What d'ya reckon to the stuff in the links I posted, the loctite freeze and release and the irwin extractors?. Found this little gem earlier that would help massively with the age old problem of drillin' a straight hole into a broken stud/bolt Quick Center ToolQCT VidForgot to mention, the broken bolt is stainless (a2) so the cobalt bit in the above is essential. Would really like a timesert rather than helicoil... there's a mobile stud extraction service over in Lancs that could come over and do the job... but it's all money, money, money innit smiley-rolleyes008
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Post by quazi on Jun 21, 2015 19:52:28 GMT
I've no experience on them, so reluctant to comment either way. Most things are worth a punt if it is likely to save time effort and or money in the long run. There's no guarantees though are there, you might be lucky and they'll work a treat. If the bolts are stainless then you'll be up against it, as they would have almost certainly fused against the ally head. I have a welder so my own choice would be to weld a nut on first, as the heat can help the issue as it is localised.
If I was more local to you, you'd be welcome to borrow the welder but I'm not. I do go to Yorkshire at least once a week, but in a car and not my van, so couldn't transport it to you in my car, it's already full of spares!
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Post by zooma on Jun 21, 2015 21:36:07 GMT
Haha, your reluctance to comment is a fair comment fella. There are indeed no guarantees with any of these broken stud remedies and that's the thing.. I could chuck £10 at some freeze spray and when that doesn't work, £20 more at an extractor set and when that doesn't work ... bet ya can see where this is goin'. As soon as I pulled the first bolt out and saw A2 stamped on the head, I had a feelin' things were gonna go awry. I've come across galvanic corrosion many times, the worst case being on a GS cylinder block where everything short of a 10 megaton ICBM was thrown at it... and still it wouldn't budge. If I was more local to you, you'd be welcome to borrow the welder but I'm not. I do go to Yorkshire at least once a week, but in a car and not my van, so couldn't transport it to you in my car, it's already full of spares! Hey man, no worries.... the thought was there and that's what counts
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Post by slim on Jun 22, 2015 10:43:03 GMT
I have had the snapped exhaust bolt problem many times I no longer bother trying to remove them myself as there is an car engine builder locally who is happy to remove them & helicoil them for 15 to 20 quid per bolt if you take him the head just my opinion but for that sort of cash its not worth the hassle of doing it myself if its only 1 or 2 bolts
Maybe its worth having a search around local to see if there is anyone similar in your area if you are taking the head off anyway ?
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Post by zooma on Jun 22, 2015 13:01:54 GMT
I hear ya man, seems like a pretty common problem on these motors?. Wuz checkin' out this 750 Inazuma engine on ebab earlier... note pics 3 and 4 GSX750 engineReally wanna try and get a timesert put in but if I can't, then a helicoil would be the next best thing. Currently lookin' at me options and have had an offer of help from one OSS member if things go tits up. Will be removing the engine in the next couple of days... would like to keep the engine in one piece if poss but as I said earlier in the thread, if the borescope doesn't work so good, then I guess a top end strip will be on the cards.
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Post by slim on Jun 23, 2015 14:41:57 GMT
Common on anything where the PO or factory has not copper slipped steel or stainless bolts into ally, dissimilar metals & galvanic corrosion accelerated by heat & moisture
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Post by zooma on Jun 23, 2015 16:36:44 GMT
Just been checkin' out the borescope that arrived yesterday. Only thing wrong with it is the CD included won't load on my PC. Luckily, I found a smart little bit of software online that I can use the cam with. So yeah, it works!, pretty damn good actually to say it's some cheap Chinese made item. The LEDs that surround the camera lens are nice and bright and can also be dimmed if needed. Gonna check out my bores tonight but gotta hoover the plug holes out first.For £7.99, ya really can't go wrong and would recommend one of these for yer tool boxes. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261888541727This is the software needed if you buy one and the CD doesn't work www.bustatech.com/webcamviewer-a-simple-viewer-for-webcam/
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Post by zooma on Jun 24, 2015 11:33:17 GMT
Ok, so just a wee update on the borescope. Couldn't see the state of the cylinder walls unfortunately, the pistons that were at the bottom of their stroke, were still too high up in the cylinders to allow the length of the camera to get a good look Ah well, not a total waste of money... still think the borescope may come in handy one day, when somethin' falls down the cam chain tunnel for example.... oh and for just a few brief minutes, I did enjoy pretendin' I wuz a consultant surgeon on a £100,000 a year salary! Just got me 4 litres of Castrol oil through the post today so gonna drop a bit down the bores, smother the camshafts and then turn the motor over by hand for a bit.
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