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Post by wsn03 on Jun 18, 2015 14:06:31 GMT
I'm posting on here because this forum seems to have the most technical brains of all the forums I use. Thinking of going back to the Middle East (not Syria, not to wear a black t-shirt, the more civilised parts- UAE), already have a very local secure storage facility. For very long term storage, whereby not even fire the bikes up for any time up to 10 years time I was thinking:
Both bikes - remove battery, cake in WD40, on stands with wheels off the ground, drain carbs, keep tanks full of fuel but with marine stabiliser, oil down the bores. Turn over by the back wheel annually. Fresh anti-freeze mix to stop internal corrosion. Seal in a vacuum bag.
Any thoughts please?
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Post by fatblokeonbandit on Jun 18, 2015 15:41:34 GMT
I'm posting on here because this forum seems to have the most technical brains of all the forums I use. Thinking of going back to the Middle East (not Syria, not to wear a black t-shirt, the more civilised parts- UAE), already have a very local secure storage facility. For very long term storage, whereby not even fire the bikes up for any time up to 10 years time I was thinking: Both bikes - remove battery, cake in WD40, on stands with wheels off the ground, drain carbs, keep tanks full of fuel but with marine stabiliser, oil down the bores. Turn over by the back wheel annually. Fresh anti-freeze mix to stop internal corrosion. Seal in a vacuum bag. Any thoughts please? 10 years!! sell them
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Post by bigkenx on Jun 18, 2015 16:13:26 GMT
I can't see I problem with what you suggested , I have seen manned storage where they make sure everything is ok no power failures or malfunctioning de humidifiers
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Post by captain chaos on Jun 18, 2015 16:27:26 GMT
I'm posting on here because this forum seems to have the most technical brains of all the forums I use. Thinking of going back to the Middle East (not Syria, not to wear a black t-shirt, the more civilised parts- UAE), already have a very local secure storage facility. For very long term storage, whereby not even fire the bikes up for any time up to 10 years time I was thinking: Both bikes - remove battery, cake in WD40, on stands with wheels off the ground, drain carbs, keep tanks full of fuel but with marine stabiliser, oil down the bores. Turn over by the back wheel annually. Fresh anti-freeze mix to stop internal corrosion. Seal in a vacuum bag. Any thoughts please? 10 years!! sell them Pies 'R Us is right. Or at least give them to someone you trust, to ride them every now and then.
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Post by zooma on Jun 18, 2015 16:58:47 GMT
Whatever you do... do not listen to any advice I might give about bike storage
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Post by arnout on Jun 18, 2015 17:28:39 GMT
Unhook the fuel line from the tank to the carbs.. So when (not "if"!) the tap leaks it has no chance of flooding the engine.. Learned about this the hard way.. Also I'm not keen on WD40 at all apart from using it strictly as a handcleaner or a fire starter.. Use oil or a wax based product instead to prevent rust..
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2015 19:47:44 GMT
i have a friend [yes it,s true] who has a h***a cb750 in one of them bag thing,s in a garage [heated] the bike has only done 50 mile from new and it looks new so bag it ? or sell it ? the choice is your,s........
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Post by quazi on Jun 18, 2015 19:50:23 GMT
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Post by kokolis on Jun 18, 2015 19:58:38 GMT
Silicon spray
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Post by fula28 on Jun 18, 2015 20:46:15 GMT
Agreed wd40 is bad for rubber pipes fittings over time it accelrates the age process and cracks rubber. Please bare that in mind chrome alloy all fine but rubbers no.no.
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Post by jaydee on Jun 18, 2015 21:57:57 GMT
If it's got a hydraulic clutch I'd take off the chain casing and pop a few small coins in the slave cylinder. Pop back on chain cover and the clutch is engaged without needing to pull it in at the lever (which would lose pressure over time). The plates with be kept from sticking together. Either that or fit it with a longer clutch push rod, perfect job if it's a cable clutch. No long term strain on the cable. Maybe throw a few liters of a good quality mineral oil in the tank to keep the bottom of it rusting and have the tap disconnected with the feeds bunged up. As for vacuum storage bags, I wonder if anyone has ever purged one full of argon? If the bike could be kept in argon there would no atmospheric impurities which cause oxidization then (as long as the tank and crank case were purged first). Be like parking it on the moon. Remember to keep a list of every prep job done on the bike and leave the list under the seat or in the battery box. A lot of stuff slips the mind in 10 years and handy to find the info when you go slip a battery in years to come. Saves a a day or two trying to figure out why your clutch won't disengage because it's got an extra long clutch push rod in it.
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Post by slim on Jun 18, 2015 22:33:22 GMT
I stored a bike for over 6 years once, clutch plates removed & kept separated in their own tub of oil, oil down the bores, cams & top end bits greased engine full of oil, battery given to a mate, carbs drained & tank full of diesel with hoses disconnected & bunged up all chrome or ally parts were greased, acf on everything else no vac bag just a reasonably dry shed with a small oil filled heater on a timer under the bike (I was around to check this was ok though)
All I had to do apart from the obvious cleaning & dumping old fluids was change the tyres as I didn't fancy using what were 8 or 9 year old ones by that time & the only problem I had was a bit of corrosion in the inside of the silencers where I'd missed with the grease, if I was to do this again I would remove the pipes & grease them properly & bag them up
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Post by zooma on Jun 18, 2015 23:53:31 GMT
Wished I'd remembered about ACF50 before neglecting my bike . Definitely agree with the other guys who advise NOT to use WD40. One of the two Y*m*h* XS650's I owned was almost dripping with WD when I bought it, the stuff was all over the wiring loom and had caused the adhesive tape to shit the bed. I had to unravel all the old tape and then painstakingly degrease all the wires before taping it all back up again
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Post by kokolis on Jun 19, 2015 5:29:49 GMT
Is not possible to take one with you? Or fly her ovet after a while? 10 years is damn long without
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Post by wsn03 on Jun 19, 2015 9:23:17 GMT
Wow, the replies. Big thanks to all of you, and for going into detail – this really is the best biking forum on the planet. Thanks.
I’ve been using WD like it’s the patron saint of protection, didn’t realise it had a down side – luckily I have silicone greased every rubber part on every bike. However from now on I will stick to AF50. The tip about cutting off fuel supply – very good, of course it could end up leaking. I will give it some thought. I will add 2 stroke oil to the tanks full of petrol with marine stabiliser (stops condensation).
Love the tip about the clutch, thanks for that, and I wouldn’t have thought about the inside of the exhaust pipes.
So to explain the exact situation: I have a dirt bike, a slabby, a Bandit 12, a TZR250 and a Mk1 Speed Triple.
The Slabby comes out to the Middle East, it is my baby. The dirt bike comes to the Middle East, it will get very well used over there
The Bandit 12 goes to a mates house (he has rebuilt this bike with me) – he will run it now and then, keep it charged up. When I come home each summer I will use it.
This leaves the TZR and the Mk1 Speed Triple – I love them both so I will keep them. It would be daft to bring them out too, I don't need them - all I will be doing out there is dirt biking with my step son. Both bikes are fairly agricultural, with decent storage, all the precaution work including what you’ve all said, and a vac bag we should be good. All I will do is check on them once a year, remove plugs and turn the back wheel. I’m ok with this – if I have to do some rework in 10 years that’s fine.
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