geezer1967
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Post by geezer1967 on Jun 22, 2015 17:46:31 GMT
Anyone got a US source for these pads to fit a GS1150?
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Post by katana on Jun 22, 2015 18:59:50 GMT
Why the f**k would anyone want LOW FRICTION brake pads ! ! !
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geezer1967
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Post by geezer1967 on Jun 22, 2015 19:49:21 GMT
To answer your question, young man, experienced riders on bikes with 11" rear discs don't need a brake pad as strong as the fronts, since they can lead to a condition known as "high-siding". We only need the rear brake to steady the machine, reduce cornering angles and keep the bike straight during hard stops - without the rear wheel stepping out.
Is that enough of a tutorial for you, or might I recommend, based on 50 years in the saddle,an advanced rider course to you?
Now, back to my question - does anyone have a source for the SBS low friction rear brake pads for the GS1150?
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Post by katana on Jun 22, 2015 21:12:50 GMT
Ha Ha Ha! Of the 3 or 4 GS 1000's i've ridden, locking the rears wasn't the issue - getting the buggers to do any significant stopping usually was! Seems you want a really piss poor rear brake to match the average front stoppers. Try upgrading the fronts and you'll no doubt be happier with a normal rear - just saying like, each to their own!
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Post by gammaboy on Jun 23, 2015 1:44:00 GMT
Upgrading the fronts will make it even more likely to lock the rear - didn't know there was such a thing as a low friction pad available - I'd just been planning on downsizing the rear brakes.
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Post by captain chaos on Jun 23, 2015 6:55:52 GMT
Next time when you are lubricating the chain, lubricate the brake disc as well.
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Post by katana on Jun 23, 2015 13:10:10 GMT
Upgrading the fronts will make it even more likely to lock the rear - didn't know there was such a thing as a low friction pad available - I'd just been planning on downsizing the rear brakes. Maybe but then you'll only need steady pressure on the rear not praying they don't actually do something.
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Post by pedda on Jun 23, 2015 17:19:51 GMT
I wasn't even aware of such a thing as low friction plates. All I knew was simple OEM or aftermarket organic pads for defensive performance, sintered for an upgrade and race pads for good.
Saying that - the more friction the more the pads tend to sqeak.
So where did you get your brake pads in the past? Same supplier should be able to get you OEM organic pads.
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Post by yoshi on Jun 23, 2015 21:51:05 GMT
Next time when you are lubricating the chain, lubricate the brake disc as well. yoshi
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geezer1967
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Post by geezer1967 on Jun 23, 2015 23:45:34 GMT
..and now that all the off topic jokery is over,speaking as rider with 50 years riding experience, does anyone know where I can find SBS low friction rear brake pads for my GS1150?
By the way, having ridden Suzukis for over 40 years, every one I ever rode which had a 10 to 11 inch rear disc had lockup problems, including my '82 Katana which swapped ends on me on the Long Island Expessway, My first GS1150 which wanted to step out on any solo rider hard stop, and I could go on. As I said, for a hard rider, all you need is rear stopping enough to steady the bike but 90% is done with the front. Thus the efficacy of SBS's low friction rear brake pads.They won't lock the wheel, but will give you just enough to steady your use of the fronts. Please take a moment to note the tremendous reduction in size of sport bike rear disc size over the last ten years if you don't understand what I mean.
I'm looking for a source for them. No one who has replied had had anything but opinion and apocriphal stories to relate. Can anyone actually help?
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geezer1967
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Post by geezer1967 on Jun 23, 2015 23:47:02 GMT
...not riding a GS1000 nor was I talking about one,please read the original post...
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Post by arnout on Jun 24, 2015 1:19:41 GMT
..and now that all the off topic jokery is over,speaking as rider with 50 years riding experience, does anyone know where I can find SBS low friction rear brake pads for my GS1150? [..] I'm looking for a source for them. No one who has replied had had anything but opinion and apocriphal stories to relate. Can anyone actually help? Well.. You're not making it easy for any-one to help you by not providing a part number, nor explaining what type of pad it actually is.. Talking down to people isn't very clever either if you want help.. Nobody is impressed with your claim of 50 years riding experience.. Well, not in a good way.. But as I'm a sucker for a challenge I did have a bit of a look around (as you might have done yourself..) As far I can find out the "LS" type sintered rear pad is the "low friction" kind you are referring too.. 556LS being the SBS pad number that would fit the EFE/GS1150 and many other bikes.. It seems to be a discontinued pad so is hard to find, especially in US shops.. Apart from this Canadian shop your best bet is probably eBay.. As for my apocryphal story.. When I bought my -then stock- EFE I was shocked by the extremely poor front brakes.. Like pinching a block of wood and nothing actually happening, making the rear brake seem very good in comparison.. So fitting low friction pads in the only brake with any real stopping power seems unwise.. Fitting different front brakes would however be the best course of action.. There's a thread somewhere (do a search ) that shows how to fit the nice Nissin 4-pots..
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Post by imago on Jun 24, 2015 16:13:30 GMT
..and now that all the off topic jokery is over,speaking as rider with 50 years riding experience, does anyone know where I can find SBS low friction rear brake pads for my GS1150? By the way, having ridden Suzukis for over 40 years, every one I ever rode which had a 10 to 11 inch rear disc had lockup problems, including my '82 Katana which swapped ends on me on the Long Island Expessway, My first GS1150 which wanted to step out on any solo rider hard stop, and I could go on. As I said, for a hard rider, all you need is rear stopping enough to steady the bike but 90% is done with the front. Thus the efficacy of SBS's low friction rear brake pads.They won't lock the wheel, but will give you just enough to steady your use of the fronts. Please take a moment to note the tremendous reduction in size of sport bike rear disc size over the last ten years if you don't understand what I mean. I'm looking for a source for them. No one who has replied had had anything but opinion and apocriphal stories to relate. Can anyone actually help? Yeah I can help. Firstly it's apocryphal, and you might want to look up irony if you're using it in a post like that. I'd also suggest you give up bikes and get a car, because if you haven't learned to anchor up without locking the back wheel after 50 years pad friction isn't the issue. Finally, perhaps if you leave out the attitude, get a sense of humour, and look into the possibility that your longevity in the saddle isn't impressing anyone then you may find that life is more enjoyable. Have a nice day.
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geezer1967
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Post by geezer1967 on Jun 25, 2015 0:55:45 GMT
Dude, really, lighten up! If I wanted to "talk down" to anyone on Old Skool I wouldn't be a member. Please engage your sense of humor right away,please, if not to humor an old codger. And honestly,if I had the part # I would've had the pads already - that''s the problem, SBS stopped making this niche product and it isn't listed in any of the commonly seen catalogs - that's why I ask here.
And no more elder humor from me - you lot are too serious!
Spirit
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geezer1967
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Post by geezer1967 on Jun 25, 2015 1:03:13 GMT
Dude, really, lighten up! If I wanted to "talk down" to anyone on Old Skool I wouldn't be a member. Please engage your sense of humor right away,please, if not to humor an old codger. And honestly,if I had the part # I would've had the pads already - that''s the problem, SBS stopped making this niche product and it isn't listed in any of the commonly seen catalogs - that's why I ask here. And no more elder humor from me - you lot are too serious! Spirit You're right: pad friction isn't the issue, as is obvious from the friction I seem to have inadvertently caused on Oldskool here. Actual problem seems to be excessive uptightness from certain members taking themselves much more seriously than I do or than I take myself. And as for my riding abilities, two things young fellow-my-lad: first, after you've had a half century in the saddle please feel free to comment. Short of that, well, to me you're a newbie. Second, please reread my post re: Suzuki downsizing the rear disc from 11.5 inches to the size of a tea saucer. Guess why? Ever seen the size of a Moto GP rear disc? Get the pic? Everyone,please take an ego-deflating breath here. Sorry if you're all so bloody serious you cannot take a joke, but that's not a problem of mine. I'm just a guy looking for help finding a difficult to locate part. Again, and for the third time, can anyone help?
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