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Post by havoc on Jul 1, 2015 16:29:44 GMT
The restarting of OSS was spoken about a lot after the old one closed and has been being worked on ever since then too. People were repeated reassured that it'd be back but the length of time that passed meant most responses were along the lines of ' pull the other one, it's dead and buried '. It became pointless telling people because they wouldn't believe it, possibly understandably, so the work continued quietly in the back ground....
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Post by badgerkdd on Jul 2, 2015 17:10:32 GMT
I'm not quite sure why there is this question over whether 'Banter' and such will be stomped on? I don't see it will stop if the same people who are here, go over there, then the chat and good humour should surely follow. It would seem from previous threads dealing with the same issues that, as far as I can see, OSS will still be Suzuki only, but those like myself with a mid 90's ' carbed' bike are welcome in the relevent section, as will be two strokes etc.
I know some here are concerned about the facebook crew, but I can't see why? lets be honest, get a bunch of like minded people together and generally common ground is found and new friends are made.
I admit I had a few reservations due to how the old site ended up going ( and I stopped visiting ) but I think everything I have read has been positive and most concerns have been dealt with.
Lets just give it a try, make some new friends and renew some old aquaintences. If it isn't fun and not what we expected/ wanted, PM Ash and ask to resurrect this site, call it something new and carry on.
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Post by bluedog59 on Jul 3, 2015 11:23:36 GMT
The British bike industry didn't NEED the public's permission about what they built and felt apart because they didn't bother asking. not sure if trolling or just stupid For the simpletons and CC.
You can do what you want with what you own but if it's not what your customer wants...........
You'll fail and it's worth nothing.
That's about a simple as I can put it. If it's still beyond your cerebral cortex, I'll come over and explain it Peter and Jane/ Apples and Oranges style.
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Post by captain chaos on Jul 3, 2015 11:27:39 GMT
your attitude is being noted.
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Post by gixanator on Jul 3, 2015 11:45:10 GMT
BD, you're getting shitty for no reason. if you don't like the new site you can start your own, isn't OSP a spin off from the original OSS? This is the type of banter that started the original exodus from OSS, picking fights for no particular reason. You say CC et al don't own the site, well, in fact they do and in their wisdom they have spent many hours of their own time to provide you, me and every other refugee from OSS the chance to try again. For that alone they should be congratulated. I have both a '95 B6 which I don't think is considered OSS enough and a '80 GS1000 Moto Martin which is but I still want to see what Strangewayz is up to, I want to look at FBOBs stable past and present and Banofee's latest brownie. It might not be to your taste but don't try and scupper it for the rest of us before we even get to try. No-ones forcing anyone mate, just a bunch of enthusiasts trying to congregate on neutral ground to talk shit, piss take and generally abuse one another in equal (light hearted) measure. A bit like here but with more participation because more members will hopefully come home. Like they say BD, you can leave but you can never get away and I hope if you do leave you'll reconsider at some point and give it a go, you've been a good laugh here and it would be a shame if you couldn't continue to take the piss out of the rest of us because you've thrown the toys out of the pram. Give it a go BD, there's legions waiting to take the piss out of you(and every other fucker)and legions with info you could find useful. What's not to like?
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Post by bluedog59 on Jul 3, 2015 15:55:56 GMT
Actually, I'm not getting shitty. If somebody wants to take it upon themselves to suggest I am being a troll or stupid then they can expect a likewise response. I've already said that I am more than willing to give the new/old site a go (I was on there). The old site was very good but fell apart for various reasons. For myself, I felt that, sometimes, the modding was a touch "over zealous". Mindful of this I have tried to establish how much of a carbon copy has the new site been agreed to be in order to have access to all the old content etc. Not unreasonable I would have thought because it would be foolish to replicate failure. Whenever I have asked any questions about changes, the reply's have, at best, been: Evasive. ie. Look it up for yourself. Arrogant. ie We own the site, we'll do what we want. And now, Orwellian, "Your attitude is been noted".
Overall, not an attitude that is inviting to a customer base you are asking to move.
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Post by imago on Jul 3, 2015 16:35:57 GMT
Whenever I have asked any questions about changes, the reply's have, at best, been: Evasive. ie. Look it up for yourself. Arrogant. ie We own the site, we'll do what we want. And now, Orwellian, "Your attitude is been noted".
Overall, not an attitude that is inviting to a customer base you are asking to move.
As an impartial observer, (i.e. I'll give the new site a go and if it's crap it won't affect my quality of life) the replies :- aren't evasive as all the info really is in the previous posts. arrogant just true. It is owned by someone and as the owners they can and I'm sure will, do what they want. You wouldn't invite some friends round then start redecorating because they don't like the wallpaper. They'd have the choice to accept it or leave. Orwellian? Maybe I suppose, but I saw it as sarcastic due to the references to conspiracies and inferences of thought crimes. You mentioned customers as in 'if the customers don't like' which would be a point except it has no relevance to the site as there are no customers. It's not pay-per-view, no products and no services are being offered for money. We are simply visitors, and as such we either visit or we don't. If we don't the site won't go out of business as it's not in business. Maybe it's the heat? People seem to be taking the changes way too personally as if something they own is being taken away. Just take a virtual step back and chill for a couple of days, have a look at the new site, then either join in because you like it, or call everyone cnuts and slam the door on the way out. It's just a forum folks, which truly isn't something worth getting wound up about and falling out with people over.
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Post by havoc on Jul 3, 2015 19:47:57 GMT
...so the work continued quietly in the back ground.... That makes it sound like I was involved in some way, I wasn't, but as I get about a little bit I was privileged to the state of affairs of progress. Apologies to the people that have been toiling on the project if that was the impression
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Post by bluedog59 on Jul 5, 2015 8:40:09 GMT
Sorry Imago, can't get the "quote" to work.
In the broad sense of the word we could be called "Customers" but, call us what you may, a site that takes it's "customers" for granted will not be a popular site. It can, as you say, still exist without them but what would be the point in that ?
The part of my last post above the bit you quoted is the point I have been asking all along and don't feel there has been a straight answer to. Also, some of the comments by people in "positions" have been touching on an "F' you" attitude to people leaving. Not something I would have thought it wise to adopt at this time.
I will, as I have said, take a look over when it all happens. What happens then will depend on if it retains this sites more open, relaxed attitude or moves back to more "core" values as part of the deal to access the old site's content.
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Post by captain chaos on Jul 5, 2015 8:50:39 GMT
I will, as I have said, take a look over when it all happens. What happens then will depend on if it retains this sites more open, relaxed attitude or moves back to more "core" values as part of the deal to access the old site's content. Goodbye then.
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Post by buggerlugs on Jul 5, 2015 8:52:20 GMT
Sorry Imago, can't get the "quote" to work.
In the broad sense of the word we could be called "Customers" but, call us what you may, a site that takes it's "customers" for granted will not be a popular site. It can, as you say, still exist without them but what would be the point in that ?
The part of my last post above the bit you quoted is the point I have been asking all along and don't feel there has been a straight answer to. Also, some of the comments by people in "positions" have been touching on an "F' you" attitude to people leaving. Not something I would have thought it wise to adopt at this time.
I will, as I have said, take a look over when it all happens. What happens then will depend on if it retains this sites more open, relaxed attitude or moves back to more "core" values as part of the deal to access the old site's content. I think most people know what the attitude's gonna be BD...
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Post by buggerlugs on Jul 5, 2015 8:53:20 GMT
I will, as I have said, take a look over when it all happens. What happens then will depend on if it retains this sites more open, relaxed attitude or moves back to more "core" values as part of the deal to access the old site's content. Goodbye then. Point proved
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